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wintan @wintan · 3 months ago
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Formation into Creation
The call of man has never changed. From the beginning, God’s intention has been conformity to His own image, the expression of the Eternal in a created vessel. This is not a secondary theme in scripture, it is the central thread that runs from Genesis to Revelation. “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness” establishes both the origin and the destiny of man. What God conceived in His heart, no corruption in time has been able to erase.
Though the fall introduced distortion, it did not cancel divine intention. The adversary altered formation, but he could not touch the original creation as it existed in God’s heart. This is why redemption is not merely about forgiveness, it is about restoration to divine purpose. As Jesus Christ declared and demonstrated, the goal is the bringing forth of a new creation. “If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature” (2 Corinthians 5:17). This is not improvement of the old, but the unveiling of what God had always intended.
The apostolic emphasis aligns with this. In Romans 8:29, we see that those whom He foreknew, He predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. Conformity is not optional, it is the very definition of salvation’s outcome. Colossians deepens this mystery, speaking of “Christ in you, the hope of glory” and unveiling “the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ” (Colossians 1:27, 2:2). This is the curriculum of heaven, God forming Himself within man.
Drawing from the spiritual weight often seen in the teachings of Watchman Nee and T. Austin-Sparks, we understand that God’s work is inward before it is outward. The cross is not only an event to be believed, it is an operation that dismantles the old formation so that the life of Christ may find full expression. The Spirit labors not just for activity, but for formation.
This perspective also resonates with the apostolic burden carried by ministers of the new testament, where emphasis is laid on spiritual growth as a structured journey. There are layers to this formation, dealings, teachings, seasons, and divine arrangements all aimed at producing Christ within. It is not accidental growth, it is intentional formation.
In contrast, the present world system is rapidly producing what scripture calls “vessels of wrath” and a generation aligned with perdition. Formation is happening on both sides. Darkness is discipling its own, accelerating corruption, shaping desires, and normalizing rebellion. This urgency makes the call of God even more critical. The church must not merely gather, it must form. It must become a spiritual institution where men are trained, broken, instructed, and built into the image of Christ.
The agency of this transformation is grace. “The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us…” (Titus 2:11-12). Grace is not passive, it instructs, disciplines, and empowers alignment with God. Yielding to grace is yielding to divine formation. It teaches us to deny ungodliness and to live in a way that reflects the nature of God.
Therefore, the call remains clear. In a time where false formations are multiplying, believers must uphold the banner of divine purpose. This requires intentional yielding, a willingness to be taught, corrected, and shaped by God. It requires embracing the full scope of God’s curriculum, from revelation to discipline, from doctrine to experience.
God is still after His image in man. What He conceived before time is what He is bringing to pass now. The question is whether we will submit to His process. For in the end, it is not activity that will stand, but formation. Not appearance, but conformity. Not mere belief, but the full expression of Christ in us.
Formation into Creation
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THE_Living @THE_Living · 2 months ago
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Can we just stop trying to be a better version of ourselves and focus on becoming like the son of God 🤔🤔🤔.

Because the better version of ourselves is still flesh. Our predestination is to conformed to the image of the son. This should be our goal, Our purpose and Our Life.

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."
— Romans 8:29 (King James Version)
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wintan @wintan · 3 months ago
Flesh is not always appearing dirty based on the kind of personality or shape a soul has it can conform just to blend in but with the constant intent of spotting your garment or leavening your bread to make your service(life) unacceptable before the lord. You can really love to give to a point where you lose the weight of the service of giving but you now secretly permit flesh to create a cubicle of pleasure from it, you enjoy the thank you's  and the honour and preferences it brings to you stealing the aroma it is supposed to send to God,though you have given but you have stolen back the real content of what you gave(Mathew 6:1) ... We must learn to give substances and not take the praise and pleasure of what we have given,rather we should give as though Jesus sent us,you don't take glory (Corinthians 10:31)for being an errand boy,you return it back to your master(Galatians 5:13). Flesh is a thief and flesh can hide in our spiritual activities.
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Oluwatise_1 @Oluwatise_1 · 3 months ago
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Christ is a spirit being that does not function solely based on personality/sexuality. 
Christ had certain nature's that have to override our manly natures.

In conforming to Christ, our personalities and sexualities have to be subject under the spirit.(Romans 12:2)
It does not mean these things are not there, were humans, our frame is still frail, but, they shouldn't be what we run by. 

That's why there are  commandments in church. 
If there's no need for certain nature's to change, there's no need for instructions and commandments. Many times, when commandments look difficult, it's because it's touching a nature that doesn't want to break.

True, Jesus Christ had sexuality and personality, but in his building, he didn't let them outweigh the spirit. While Christ had personality and sexuality, we are meant to prioritize our spiritual nature. This doesn't negate our humanity, but we should strive to let the spirit guide us above all else.

Same way we must not let this define us neither must we live by it (1 Corinthians 2:16)
That's why he was neither introvert nor extrovert. He was Christ and the Son of God.

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wintan @wintan · 8 days ago
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The Sufferings of Faith: Beyond Miracles and Exploits

In modern Christian discourse, faith has been overwhelmingly reduced to an instrument for terrestrial leverage. We have been taught that faith is purely a mechanism to command breakthroughs, bypass discomfort, execute grand exploits, and produce immediate, visible miracles. While faith certainly carries the authority to alter circumstances, limiting it to mere performance and problem-solving distorts the true nature of the Gospel.
Faith is not only the power to obtain; it is equally the capacity to endure, to suffer, and to refuse.
When we examine the full counsel of Scripture, we see that suffering is not an accident in the Christian walk; it is a foundational curriculum of the Christ-life designed for the total transformation and salvation of the human soul.
### The Dual Testimony of Hebrews 11
The ultimate biblical treatise on faith, Hebrews 11, presents two distinct, unyielding dimensions of faith that must be held in equal weight:
 * **The Faith of Exploits (Verses 33–35a):** The faith that *"subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire."* This is the dimension the modern church celebrates.
 * **The Faith of Endurance (Verses 35b–39):** The faith where others *"were tortured, not accepting deliverance... had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings... were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword."*
Notice what the Scripture says about those who suffered, refused deliverance, and wandered in sheepskins and goatskins: **"Of whom the world was not worthy"** (Hebrews 11:38).
It takes an equal, if not greater, measure of faith to stand in the furnace without demanding an immediate exit, choosing rather to allow the trial to complete its refining work in the soul.

Moses: The Faith of Refusal

Before faith manifests as a force that parts the Red Sea, it must first manifest as a force that rejects the world.
Hebrews 11:24–26 captures this profound posture:
 *"By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt..."*
 
Moses' first major demonstration of faith was not pulling a plague down on Egypt; it was the **refusal** of Egypt’s royalty, ease, and comfort.
Faith gives a man a spiritual optic that revalues reality. To the carnal mind, Egyptian treasure is life; to the mind governed by faith, the "reproach of Christ" carries far greater eternal weight. Faith gives you the divine fortitude to say *No* to compromising avenues of escape, *No* to shortcut prosperity, and *No* to the self-preserving demands of the flesh.

Jesus: The Man of Sorrows and the Science of Suffering

To understand how suffering functions in the salvation of the soul, we must look at Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our Faith.
Prophetically described in Isaiah 53:3 as *"a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief,"* Jesus did not bypass human suffering; He weaponized it against the power of sin.
In Hebrews 5:8, Scripture records:
*"Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered..."*

And again in Hebrews 2:10:
*"For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings."*

If the sinless Son of God required the curriculum of suffering to learn obedience in His human walk and to be made perfect as the Captain of our salvation, how could believers expect to reach spiritual maturity while insulating themselves from every cross?
Suffering in the Christ-curriculum is not punitive; it is **pedagogical**. It teaches the soul how to yield its self-will to the Father. In Gethsemane, when Jesus prayed, *"Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done"* (Luke 22:42), He was executing the highest level of faith possible: the absolute submission of human preference to the sovereign program of God.

The Science of "Light Affliction" and Eternal Glory

The Apostle Paul, who operated in extraordinary signs and miracles, wrote extensively on the necessity of suffering in relation to the soul's transformation. In 2 Corinthians 4:17–18, he reveals the divine equation:

*"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen..."*

Paul calls beatings, shipwrecks, imprisonments, and constant pressure a **"light affliction."** Why? Not because the physical pain was trivial, but because when measured against the **"far more exceeding eternal weight of glory,"** the trial pales in comparison.
To the carnal optic, the present trial feels overwhelming while eternal glory feels distant or abstract. But to the faith optic, that exact same trial is recognized as an active worker, manufacturing capacity within the soul to bear the eternal weight of God's glory. Without the endurance of pressure, the soul remains shallow, brittle, and unable to hold the weight of eternal life.

The Deeper Call: Moving Beyond Earthly Self-Preservation

The ultimate goal of the Gospel is not merely the modification of our earthly environment, but the **transmutation of the soul** from the Adamic nature to the Nature of the Son.
The flesh naturally seeks ease, self-preservation, and immediate relief. When faith is used purely to seek comfort and avoid every unpleasant process, it leaves the Adamic nature intact. But when faith is engaged to endure trials, to deny ungodliness, to mortify the deeds of the body, and to embrace the cross, the life of self is systematically broken.
As Romans 8:17 explicitly states:
*"And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."*

Glorification is structurally tied to suffering with Him.

Faith is the spiritual backbone that allows a believer to stand firm when the furnace is heated, to hold fast to the confession of hope without wavering, and to trust that the Father is using every trial to conform us to the image of His Son.
We must recover this full spectrum of faith: not just the faith that pulls down kingdom exploits, but the majestic, unshakeable faith that suffers well, refuses compromise, and lays hold of the eternal weight of glory.

The Sufferings of Faith: Beyond Miracles and Exploits
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wintan @wintan · 4 days ago
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Faith: The Substance of Hopes and the Utmost Intent of God's Elect
In Christian thought, faith is often introduced through the landmark declaration of Hebrews 11:1: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." While this verse is frequently cited, its depth is often truncated. We readily understand faith as an engine that brings the unseen into physical reality, but we rarely interrogate the nature of the hopes that faith is called to substantiate.
Faith operates across a spectrum of hopes. There is a measure of faith that substantiates bodily healing, a faith that provides material supply, and a faith that commands mountains to move into the sea. Yet, none of these represent the ultimate purpose of faith.
The ultimate intent of faith is defined in Titus 1:1–2: the faith of God's elect, which is specifically designed to lay hold of eternal life.
The Spectrum of Hopes: From Temporal Deliverance to Eternal Substance
To understand the utmost intent of faith, we must first recognize that hope exists in distinct layers, and faith adapts its substance to the dimension of hope set before it.
In Mark 5, the woman with the issue of blood had a hope centered on bodily restoration. Jesus affirmed her, saying, "Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole." Faith acted as the substance for her physical healing. Similarly, in Matthew 17:20, Jesus spoke of faith as a grain of mustard seed capable of moving mountains. This dimension of faith alters physical terrain, removes earthly obstacles, and commands temporal resources.
These manifestations of faith are real, scriptural, and valid. God in His mercy provides for the physical needs of man. However, if a believer's faith never matures beyond the realm of physical bodies and earthly circumstances, they miss the primary reason faith was given.
Physical healing will eventually succumb to mortal death, material abundance will fade, and moved mountains belong to a creation that will one day be dissolved. If faith only secures what is temporary, it leaves the human spirit unfulfilled. Lower hopes serve our earthly pilgrimage, but they are not the final destination.
The Faith of God's Elect: Titus 1 and the Ultimate Promise
The Apostle Paul opens his epistle to Titus with an extraordinary outline of apostolic purpose:
"Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began..."Titus 1:1–2
Notice the direct connection: the faith of God's elect is intrinsically bound to the hope of eternal life.
This hope is not a vague wish to go to heaven when one dies; it is the realization of a promise made before the world began. Before creation existed, the Father purposed to share His own uncreated, indestructible life with man. The elect are those who have been called out to participate in this eternal program. Therefore, the highest form of faith is not the faith that receives things from God, but the faith that receives the very Life of God.
The Economy of Eternal Life in 1 Timothy 6
Paul echoes this exact doctrine when writing to his spiritual son Timothy. In 1 Timothy 6:12, he gives a direct command:
"Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called..."
This reveals two vital truths: first, eternal life must be laid hold of, meaning it is not automatically possessed in its fullness merely by an initial confession, but requires an active, spiritual laying hold. Second, the true fight of faith is for eternal life. The fight of faith is not battling for earthly possessions or temporal status; it is contending against the distractions, lusts, and illusions of the world to ensure the soul lays hold of the divine nature.
Later in the same chapter, Paul instructs the rich not to trust in uncertain riches, but to be rich in good works, "Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life" (1 Timothy 6:19). The ultimate yield of a consecrated walk is the securing of eternal life within the soul.
From Milk to Meat: Maturing the Target of Our Faith
In Hebrews 6:1–2, the writer warns against remaining forever at the foundational stages of the Christian walk:
"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God..."
Foundational faith often focuses on immediate survival, protection, and temporal answers. But as the believer grows, the Holy Spirit redirects the sight of the heart. The target of faith shifts from "What can God give me on earth?" to "Who can I become in Christ?" It shifts from "How do I change my circumstances?" to "How is this trial conforming me to His Image?"
When faith matures into the Faith of the Elect, the believer begins to use faith to mortify the deeds of the flesh (Romans 8:13), to put on the armor of light, and to yield to the transforming work of the Word. Faith becomes the divine instrument by which the soul drinks of the Spirit and grows into the full stature of Christ.
The End of Your Faith
The Apostle Peter summarizes the ultimate destination of this spiritual journey in 1 Peter 1:8–9:
"Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."
The "end" or ultimate purpose of faith is the complete salvation and transformation of the soul.
While we give thanks for the miracles of healing, the provision in times of need, and the mountains moved along the way, we must never mistake the signs along the road for the destination itself. To walk in the faith of God's elect is to set your sight on the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. It is to allow faith to work beyond the surface of mortal existence, fashioning within you an eternal weight of glory that will stand unshaken when all temporal things pass away.
Faith: The Substance of Hopes and the Utmost Intent of God's Elect
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